Ever wondered where Mr. Williams got the idea for the elaborate outdoor assembly of pipework from?
Living in London, I guess.
Terry Gilliam once pointed out that he was so baffled by London's outdoor plumbing, added onto Victorian buildings as an afterthought, that he based the ducts in "Brazil" on it.
One big umbilical, connecting it all
Saturday, November 17, 2012
The "if"
This past Wednesday, Sharon and I made our way to Kings Cross and boarded the 10:35 to Leeds.
Why?
Kevin Schreck had organized some complementary tickets for "Persistence of Vision" which was part of the "Leeds International Film Festival" program, and as we had never been to Leeds, this seemed like an excellent excuse.
Leeds is nice by the way, if anyone fancies going.
The film was playing in the town hall, which in itself is worth the price of admission.
We met up with Brent Odell and Claire Wright (Backgrounds).
Claire did not take part in the film, but happens to live in Leeds and found out via facebook.
I was slightly apprehensive about the movie, not because I doubted it would be interesting, but because I was interviewed for it 2 years ago and just wondered what sort of nonsense I may have spouted.
For anyone who knows little about the Thief, this must be a real mind blower.
For starters it is a competent introduction to the general work of Richard Williams, spending the first hour concentrating on the rise of his business in London, commercial work and finally his involvement in "Who framed Roger Rabbit".
Interwoven in all this is the tale of Dick and the two Shahs, the development of the Nasrudin illustrations and their transition into the film medium.
All this is peppered with soundbites from Ramon Modiano, Richard Burdett, John Culhane and Howard Blake, recounting their time in the studio long long before any of us arrived for the final sprint.
When the film kicks into "Thief" gear, the ark of : "takeoff, flight and crash" becomes palpable, and even though you know the outcome, you still find yourself rooting for the filmmaker.
Both sides of the struggle between artist and financier are told by people who themselves had no stake in the affair, so instead of trying to find out who was to blame for the crash, it points out the basic incompatibility between the investors and the guy with the vision.
And while I fully understand that Mr Williams did not want to talk about it, and though it would have been interesting to hear his angle, I think it has not really been to the detriment of this documentary.
Dick certainly comes out smelling of roses. After all who would have wanted to see a film about a financially successful artistic compromise.
The end of the movie concentrates on what the "Thief" turned into and the influences, the material had on Disney's "Aladdin".
Some amusing comparisons.
What struck me was the footage of the impromptu wrap party, that happened when the "Completion Bond Company" closed down production.
Because I left the film some 2 month prior, I was not there and seeing the lost look on Roy Nesbitts face when the camera inadvertently catches his eye sent shiver down my spine.
Kevin Schreck said, that he had a lifelong fascination with the "Thief".
Lifelong indeed, when Dick signed the production deal with WB in 1988 Mr. Schreck presumably wasn't yet born.
To sum it up, "Persistence of Vision" is a love letter to the stamina and artistry of an animation icon, and without any attempt at sycophancy and saccharine coating, rings true about the creative struggle facing people with real ideas in a "big money industry".
There is even a touching moment when one of the Nasrudin stories is told to emphasize a particular point.
I hope it gets a wider release, if copyright issues will or can ever be resolved.
And if it plays at a festival near you... go see it.
And if you have, and if you have listened to Chris Knott, you'll understand the title of this Blog post.
Toodlepip
Michael
Why?
Kevin Schreck had organized some complementary tickets for "Persistence of Vision" which was part of the "Leeds International Film Festival" program, and as we had never been to Leeds, this seemed like an excellent excuse.
Leeds is nice by the way, if anyone fancies going.
The film was playing in the town hall, which in itself is worth the price of admission.
We met up with Brent Odell and Claire Wright (Backgrounds).
Claire did not take part in the film, but happens to live in Leeds and found out via facebook.
I was slightly apprehensive about the movie, not because I doubted it would be interesting, but because I was interviewed for it 2 years ago and just wondered what sort of nonsense I may have spouted.
For anyone who knows little about the Thief, this must be a real mind blower.
For starters it is a competent introduction to the general work of Richard Williams, spending the first hour concentrating on the rise of his business in London, commercial work and finally his involvement in "Who framed Roger Rabbit".
Interwoven in all this is the tale of Dick and the two Shahs, the development of the Nasrudin illustrations and their transition into the film medium.
All this is peppered with soundbites from Ramon Modiano, Richard Burdett, John Culhane and Howard Blake, recounting their time in the studio long long before any of us arrived for the final sprint.
When the film kicks into "Thief" gear, the ark of : "takeoff, flight and crash" becomes palpable, and even though you know the outcome, you still find yourself rooting for the filmmaker.
Both sides of the struggle between artist and financier are told by people who themselves had no stake in the affair, so instead of trying to find out who was to blame for the crash, it points out the basic incompatibility between the investors and the guy with the vision.
And while I fully understand that Mr Williams did not want to talk about it, and though it would have been interesting to hear his angle, I think it has not really been to the detriment of this documentary.
Dick certainly comes out smelling of roses. After all who would have wanted to see a film about a financially successful artistic compromise.
The end of the movie concentrates on what the "Thief" turned into and the influences, the material had on Disney's "Aladdin".
Some amusing comparisons.
What struck me was the footage of the impromptu wrap party, that happened when the "Completion Bond Company" closed down production.
Because I left the film some 2 month prior, I was not there and seeing the lost look on Roy Nesbitts face when the camera inadvertently catches his eye sent shiver down my spine.
Kevin Schreck said, that he had a lifelong fascination with the "Thief".
Lifelong indeed, when Dick signed the production deal with WB in 1988 Mr. Schreck presumably wasn't yet born.
To sum it up, "Persistence of Vision" is a love letter to the stamina and artistry of an animation icon, and without any attempt at sycophancy and saccharine coating, rings true about the creative struggle facing people with real ideas in a "big money industry".
There is even a touching moment when one of the Nasrudin stories is told to emphasize a particular point.
I hope it gets a wider release, if copyright issues will or can ever be resolved.
And if it plays at a festival near you... go see it.
And if you have, and if you have listened to Chris Knott, you'll understand the title of this Blog post.
Toodlepip
Michael
Friday, October 19, 2012
Persistence of Vision
Kevin Schrek's neatly titled documentary on Dick Williams' unfinished opus is featured on French animation news site Catsuka
Thursday, March 29, 2012
Permanent exhibition on the life and art of Errol Le Cain
posting for Denyse:
Hello Everyone
The Eurasian Association of Singapore is considering a permanent exhibition on the life and art of Errol Le Cain, who was Eurasian and from Singapore. I am writing his biography.
Very grateful to anyone who would please take the time to write to me at errollecainlegacy@gmail.com with ANY information, anecdotes and comments on working with Errol, his art and any information at all that could add to the biography.
Richard Williams has kindly consented to answer some questions and to write a paragraph or two.
Thanks and Health to all
Denyse Tessensohn
Singapore
Hello Everyone
The Eurasian Association of Singapore is considering a permanent exhibition on the life and art of Errol Le Cain, who was Eurasian and from Singapore. I am writing his biography.
Very grateful to anyone who would please take the time to write to me at errollecainlegacy@gmail.com with ANY information, anecdotes and comments on working with Errol, his art and any information at all that could add to the biography.
Richard Williams has kindly consented to answer some questions and to write a paragraph or two.
Thanks and Health to all
Denyse Tessensohn
Singapore
Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Assorted Artwork
Been digging out the old slides and scanning them to prevent detoriation. So without further ado, just a few images of BG art, Cel art and Colormodels:
Sunday, February 5, 2012
Setting the Scene
Nice book. Several pages about layout and camera work on the Thief and many quotes by Roy Naisbitt and John Leatherbarrow throughout the book.
Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Angora Love
Remember this earlier post?
http://thethief1.blogspot.com/2008/02/zigag-steps-on-tack.html
I recently watched a few Laurel&Hardy shorts and in one of them I recognized the shots that Dick used as reference for the animation of Zigzag stepping on the tack. The short is called "Angora Love".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angora_Love
As a kid I watched a lot of Laurel&Hardy films on German television. Comedian Hanns Dieter Hüsch did narration and also voice over for all the characters. When I think of Laurel&Hardy I always imagine hearing his voice. You might want to search for "Die nächtliche Ziegenwäsche". There is a clip that has the shots that Dick used around the 8:50 mark.
http://thethief1.blogspot.com/2008/02/zigag-steps-on-tack.html
I recently watched a few Laurel&Hardy shorts and in one of them I recognized the shots that Dick used as reference for the animation of Zigzag stepping on the tack. The short is called "Angora Love".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angora_Love
As a kid I watched a lot of Laurel&Hardy films on German television. Comedian Hanns Dieter Hüsch did narration and also voice over for all the characters. When I think of Laurel&Hardy I always imagine hearing his voice. You might want to search for "Die nächtliche Ziegenwäsche". There is a clip that has the shots that Dick used around the 8:50 mark.
Sunday, November 20, 2011
Into the City (updated)

Here is a guest blog entry by our friend Simon Maddocks, in his own words and with illustrations he supplied. Enjoy!
UPDATE - Simon's linetests:
I started work at Richard Williams Studio in the summer of 1990, originally employed as Ramon Guillaumet's assistant. On my first day however, Dick gave me a scene to animate on the War Machine destruction sequence. The second and final scene I animated was the animation of the city from a long shot of the palace to a close-up of the three gold balls. This lasted about 194 frames, and took me a year. I've dug out a few drawings from the scene below:

Prior to the city scene were scenes of swirling clouds and other abstract patters within a glass ball held between a disembodied pair of hands. This is a layout drawing guide to the framing of those scenes.

The city in which much of "The Thief" takes place was depicted in many backgrounds in the film, and among the most spectacular was a large painting by Errol Le Cain of the whole city on a hill. The palace in its grounds surrounded by a moat is seen here in this detail. The whole painting was probably about 6 feet wide.

The design for the city was drawn up by Roy Naisbitt as a huge line drawing about 10 feet wide. I was concerned with animating the palace section at the top which was to be at the end of a track in to that section from a wide shot of the whole city.
I stared at this drawing for hours on my first day on the scene, wondering how on earth I was going to start the process. The style of the film was that of Persian miniatures, which had naive perspective which did not really lend itself to the kind of dimensional breakdown that would make animating around the form easy, but I noticed - to my relief - that Roy had actually used perspective on the palace, and the towers around the walls were actually definable on a perspective grid. There was no vertical perspective, all the vertical lines were parallel.

This is an early drawing to try to break down that structure before getting into some detailed grid animation on which I would construct the city. The underpinning of the grid would stop the buildings losing form and swimming around as the animation progressed.

With some basic grids drawn up I started on some rough keyframe drawings as a test of the process and also the composition.{

This is one of five or six layers of gound level where the grid is sub-divided and the plans of the buildings are then drawn in. The reason for using subdivideable grids almost everywhere is that you don't need any measurement, which is impractical in a perspective drawing. The subdivision works naturally within the perspective and allows smooth animation based on only a few initial points being laid down. Of course you have to get those right!

This drawing shows the plans of the buildings and walls for the various ground levels for one of the animation frames.

From the plans the heights of the buildings are "extruded" upwards to act as a template for the more detailed drawings.

This is the finished drawing of the main details of the architecture and landscape for the first frame. Further detail would be added on additional cell layers for bricks and smaller details, such as the chains supporting the leaning minaret.

As I had done with the city, the palace needed to be broken down into a constructable set of shapes. The palace was the most detailed building in the scene by far and was to fill the screen, so it needed particularly fine detailing.

This is a test drawing for the detailed lines of the palace for frame 103.

The finish of the artwork was another issue that required much care, detail and sheer craftsmanship. Under Dick's direction, it was decided that the city would be photocopied onto yellow paper, which would then feature coloured pencil rendering with additional layers of hand traced detail such as bricks and highlights on frosted cells. This picture is of a colour test by Dee Morgan. Dee had also worked on the flower renders in the film. Rendering in this sense refers to the subtle coloured pencil shading of the animation frame by frame. This is extremely demanding work because the tendency is for the randomness of the shaded pencil strokes to "boil" from one frame to the next, distracting from the more subtle main animation.

This is a demonstration frame I made up with laser copied city drawing rendered by Dee, with further detail and rendering work on a frosted overlay cell. There is also a flat painted cell for the sky. This is by no means the finished look as there would have been additional exposures to highlight the sky brightness and the gold domes. The cells no longer perfectly align in this artwork unfortunately but I hope it gives some indication where the scene was heading. The disc is about 11.4 inches in diameter

This is a test render of the final frame, centred on the gold balls at the top of the minaret, which were a key plot device in the story. Subsequent scenes in the prologue took over from this frame.The scene was called "Into City". I did the principal animation but others contributed, including Elaine Koo ( in-betweening ), Mark Naisbitt ( detail work ), Robert Somerville, ( in-betweens, detail ), and Dee Morgan ( rendering )Sadly this scene was never finished. The studio had a break for Easter in 1992, and when we came back 12 of the drawings from the middle of the scene had gone missing. These were near-finished highly rendered drawings from Dee that would have taken a long time to replicate. Shortly after that the film fell into the hands of the Completion Bond Company and all artwork was shipped off to the States. No-one picked the scene up again.Working on "The Thief" was very hard work but it was extremely rewarding. Seeing the rough cuts as the film came together was inspiring. It seems rare now to see the close collaboration the team all had directly with Dick Williams, you didn't have to go through a chain of leads and supervisors to communicate with the director you just walked up to him. I learned a lot on that production and made a lot of friends, who I am still in touch with. There's a wide range of opinion concerning the fate of "The Thief". I believe had we been allowed to finish it it would have certainly been an artistic success and probably a popular one too. We'll never know.
Friday, October 21, 2011
Neil Boyle's "The Last Belle"
I can't wait to see Neil Boyle's short film "The Last Belle". Nice to see a lot of familiar faces in these photos from the crew screening:
http://thelastbelleblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/crew-screening.html
"making of..." blog:
http://thelastbelleblog.blogspot.com/
website:
http://www.thelastbelle.com/
John Leatherbarrow and Neil Boyle
http://thelastbelleblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/crew-screening.html
"making of..." blog:
http://thelastbelleblog.blogspot.com/
website:
http://www.thelastbelle.com/
John Leatherbarrow and Neil Boyle
Monday, April 25, 2011
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